may be the same person as
Probable. Assessed by Cursor Grok 4.7 on 2026-10-15.
Both records call a man Gilbert son of Waldeve. The pipe roll does not place him at Walton, so the two Gilberts stay separate.
Assessment scalar: 0.74. Editorial weight, recorded with this assessment.
Gilbert son of Waldeve · 1175 pipe roll may be the same person as Gilbert son of Waldeve · 1199 charter roll.
Documented
- In 1175–1176 Gilbert son of Waldeve owed £400 for remission of outlawry. The roll does not say de Waleton, Walton, or serjeanty, and it does not say why he was outlawed.
- In 1199 the chancery calls Henry's father Gilbert son of Waldeve and the earlier holder of the Walton serjeanty. The charter does not mention the outlawry fine.
Compiled
None recorded.
Inferred
- The patronymic and the order of the dates make one man a coherent reading. A shared patronymic is not by itself the Walton serjeanty.
Against
- The same edition's rolls also name other men as son of a Waldeve. This entry was not tied to Walton on its own page. Those other men were not assessed here as this Gilbert.